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Thank you - Posted by Ed Catterson
31/12/2004 20:46:00

for the pictures and the interesting map. My reason for visiting this site, is that my ancestors the Howards participated to a great extent in this battle. i hope to visit there some day, but its a long way from Texas. Best wishes to all Scots, as I am also Scotch Irish.



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Our Fallen - Posted by JoyceAnn Yarbrough
04/02/2005 17:35:00

Yes, thank you for the pictures and the detailed info on this site. As I am researching my lineage, I have two ancestors who died in this Battle, Napier and Campbell.



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Battle Site - Posted by Dave
28/02/2005 20:05:00

We visited the battle site and monument on Saturday 26th February 2005.It was a lovely sunny day and we walked the battlefield trail opened in 2004.
The trail was easy to follow , I hope that in future some information might be put along the trail at the various points of interest, such as positions of the units of both sides, events unfolding during the battle etc.

I have to been to several battle sites in both Britain and mainland Europe. There has never before been a place which allowed me so easily to visualise the terrible events of a battle.

It is a wonderfully compact battle site and seems to have remained essentially unchanged for nearly 500 years! Unfortunately the Church was closed when we visited so I couldn't get a pamphlet describing the battle.

I do hope that at some point in the future a visitors centre might be built nearby to fully describe the events of this historic battle for future generations.



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DAVE'S MESSAGE ON 28TH FEB 2005 - Posted by Ken Driver
13/03/2005 19:43:00

Dave

We (The Flodden Battlefield Group) have just received the first of seven display boards which will be positioned around the battlefield. These boards give the visitor the aspect of what it would have been like in the middle of the battle from that respective viewpoint. Believe me, these boards are large and very well done. They have all the information you'll require and the graphics are excellent!

We hope to have all of these boards situated around the battlefield within the next few months, and we will have a large information board situated in the main visitor carpark.



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Photo of the Message boards - Posted by Deborah
09/04/2005 16:11:00

I've been doing Flodden research for two years now from afar (St. Louis, MO, USA), and am thrilled to have found this site! It is beautifully done, full of excellent information both in text and by image.
thank you so much for the information here. Well done



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battlefields trail - Posted by Niamh
03/07/2005 19:24:00

I visited the site with my mum and dad today and really really enjoyed it...i liked the picture boards all the way round. I could imagine the mud and the noise when the battle happened. I like to imagine what ancient things are buried deep in the ground!!!

Niamh, aged 8



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DIALOGUE NOT WAR - Posted by Robert McKInnon
30/07/2005 21:31:00

In June 1314 a huge, well armed, and confident English army led by King Edward invaded Scotland and was annihilated on the banks of the Bannockburn. Many of these men still lie at the Bannockburn and never went home. In September 1513 a huge, well armed and confident Scottish army led by King James invaded England and was annihilated at Branxton Lea. Many of these men still lie in Northumberland and never went home.

The history lesson for all of us is simple. Dialogue and negotiation in dispute is the only meaningful way forward.

PS This is a fine and well balanced website - many thanks for creating it.



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Flodden - Posted by Hugh Hainey
02/08/2005 23:18:00

Visited the battlefield to day 08/08/05.
My first visit since 1960. I think the site is just perfect now.
Informative without being state of the art ,as so many sites now are
Glad to see no Tacky Tourist shops and free parking with no admission charge
Let the brave from both sides lie in Peace for everymore.



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Enjoyed our walk - Posted by Els Nicol
07/09/2005 11:52:00

Dear Flodden Battlefield committee,
Just to let you know that our whole family (3 kids aged 8,13 and 14)very much enjoyed the walk around the Battlefield. The information boards are great at bringing the event to life. Congratulations on all your hard work, I think it has been worth it!



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Excellent Resource - Posted by Steve Ellwood
09/09/2005 12:27:00

Having visited Branxton at the weekend, your web sie provided an excellent resource for useful information prior to that trip. I\'ve just posted some photographs taken during the vist to the follwoing link is anyone is interested:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/06D99E676189916

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Steve Ellwood



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Scottish Retreat - Posted by Jackie Nicholson
02/10/2005 09:51:00

hello all, I am researching Oliphants as part of my family tree.
I wondered if anyone had any information, or knew where the information would be, about the Scottish retreat, ie I have heard the English had the Scotts surrounded to the North and the South, the North Sea to the East and therefore their retreat would be to the west has anyone heard of this, also is there a list of escapees anywhere ? or prisoner lists, locations ?
Long shot I know but sometimes they hit home.
Many thanks
Jackie Nicholson



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Branxton history - Posted by John Fairnington
27/12/2005 12:24:00

My father spent much of his youth staying with relatives at Branxton and believed the old house just below the Rectory was standing at the time of the Battle of Flodden.Would any one have any idea if this is so ?
Thanks for the site. I shall be in Branxton for the 9th Sept commemoration



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Getting ready for 2013 - Posted by Robert Jones
23/01/2006 23:13:00

Given all the celebration for the anniversary of the Battle of Bannockburn a few years back, I hope someone is giving thought to getting ready for a major celebration of the anniversary of the Battle of Flodden. I note that Bannockburn has a visitors centre et al. Can we not get something for one of England\'s greatest victories? At the moment there is insufficient to show the site of such an important event.



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my favourite place - Posted by anne jackson
31/01/2006 20:51:00

Im delighted to have stumbled across this site. My memories of Flodden field are of walks on golden,tranquil, late summer evenings with good friends and my daughters;soaking up the atmosphere of the tragic Scottish loss.
Although Im Engish and a Northumbrian through and through, my Scottish Black Douglas roots (intertwined with the Pennys of Aberdeen) leave me grieving deeply on each visit. The site has certainly improved in many ways over the years;Even had it not,it would still remain my favourite place in the world.



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opening ceremony monument - Posted by euan spencer
14/02/2006 15:15:00

I have a collection of glass slides by local photographer J Cleet one of which appears to show opening ceremony of monument ?1930 s can anyone date this event?If the web site would like a copy if they dont already have one get in touch Euan



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Good Luck! - Posted by Louise
24/03/2006 13:00:00

This is a wonderful wealth of information. Good Luck!



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Great website! - Posted by James
24/03/2006 13:01:00

Great website! Bookmarked! I am impressed at your work!



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touring the battle fields - Posted by jim howe
11/04/2006 12:38:00

It is extremely fascinating and I hope many others will experience the fields of flodden and enjoy it like very much did.



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Just found your home page - Posted by William
16/04/2006 22:53:00

Just found your home page its great, it looks like you folks do great service keep up the good work.



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Branxton Australia - Posted by Trent Jacobs
03/05/2006 14:37:00

G\'Day
great site well layed out. I visited Branxton (uk) on a visit a few yrs ago n found it interisting that there was a major battle and it is a significant town. here we are surounded my vinyards and coal mines, also i noticed that the cemetry and the families around the area have the same last names as most of the people who live in Branxton (Aust) keep up the good work
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Alexander Kneland - Posted by Kathryn Schneider
29/06/2006 00:44:00

Just came across your site while doing family research. My relative, Alexander (7th generation of Knelands) died at Flodden Field that horrendous day of Sept 9.
He was from Kneland Manor, Lanarkshire. Would like a better close-up of the monument if possible.



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Photographs - Posted by David Wilson
09/07/2006 20:16:00

Great site, nice to see others taking pride in the North East. I have just visited the battlefield for the first time and taken a few pictures (now on my website www.northernphotoshop.co.uk) should anyone wish to look at them - will post more soon. If the website owners would like these photos for use on the Flodden website please contact me - I would be happy to donate for free.

Keep up the good work - also I like the suggestion of a celebration of the battle in 2013, plenty of time to get it organised !!



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flodden - Posted by alastair wilcox
05/08/2006 20:11:00

Visited Flodden field for the first time- with kids in tow. Kids loved it- they were able to get a real sense of the battlefield. We picked up leaflet from the Church in the village [note car park signposts difficult to spot from this direction] and found the additional leaflets on site helpful too. Inspired, we then visited Etal Castle. We were sorry to miss the commemoration of the event that Coldstream host as part of their Civic Week. Those responsible for this site [from leaflet writers. planners and local farmers] are to be congratulated- a brilliant heritage site.



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SORROWLESSFIELD - Posted by John King
15/08/2006 22:25:00

A quote from \"Reflections on Scotland”, by Ian Wallace, about the battle: “In two hours 10,000 Scots were dead, a number that included the King, twelve earls, fourteen lords and sixty-eight knights. It is said that every Border farm and family had someone to mourn, not to mention the losses in the highlands. However, there was, in fact, one Border farm to which everyone returned safely, and that is why it is known as Sorrowlessfield.”
Seven years ago my wife and I bought Sorrowlessfield farm and moved in, soon learning the reason for its name. Last Thursday we went for the first time to Flodden, joining hundreds of \"pilgrims\" on the annual ride-out from Coldstream. It was very moving, with an excellent address delivered by Judy Steele.



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The Showdown - Posted by Douglas
30/09/2006 16:06:00

This is definately the final medieval show down between England and Scotland. If Surrey had lost who knows what might have happened but instead he won a stunning and decisive victory against odds that certainly did no favour his army. The skill of the English billmen and cavalry and their superiority over the Scots won the day. Well done to those great Englishmen who defended our nation.



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research - Posted by Robert Kuehnle
02/10/2006 19:41:00

Hello i am a Undergraduate at culver stockton college doing my senior thesis on the battle of flodden i was wondering if there is anyone there that could point me to some primary sources i have a few but could use much more. Just thought i would give it a shot.



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family honour - Posted by Alan Whittle
29/12/2006 09:58:00

Great site full of information. Not been to Flodden field yet but will do sometime in the near future. I had an ancester who died of his wounds at Flodden, Sir Thomas Whittle was his name. His son was taken by another knight to be raised as his own. My line came from Harby in Leicestershire so you can see we are a long way from home. I believe our line started in Whittle-le-Woods around 1150/1200 with a Sir Guy-de-Whittle. I salute all those brave men who died in battle, Scots and English alike. May they rest in peace.



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Research - Posted by Peter Morrill
07/02/2007 12:04:00

If you want to know more of Flodden and the events leading up to the battle, could I recomend a book. It\'s \'Flodden\' by Niall Barr and is published in paperback form by Tempus. For those wishing more detailed research, the book has a 3 page bibliography of primary sources.



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Paper - Posted by Robert Kuehnle
09/03/2007 20:27:00

I just wanted to say thank you for all the help on sources for the Battle of Flodden. I wrote my Capstone project on the battle of Flodden and ask on the meesage board if someone could help me find sources.

I would like to tell you I am the top paper at my college, and I am presenting the paper at the Mississippi River Valley Historucal Confrence. I thank all of you so much

Robert Kuehnle



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Flodden - Posted by Oggie
28/05/2007 17:14:00

Looking forward to visiting the site for the first time next month (June '07).
Oggie from Leicestershire.



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Excellent project - Posted by Carl Bendelow
28/06/2007 19:57:00

A group of rural development workers from Cumbria and Northumberland visited the village on Tuesday 26th June and were given an excellent presentation about the battlefield group\'s work to develop and promote understanding of the battlefield at Flodden. We were interested in how they were developing their Sense of Place and how their enthusiasm could be generated in other rural communities.

We learn a great deal and I have to say the lunch and tea they laid on was first class. May your work continue.



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Flodden Field visted - Posted by Jeffrey Lloyd
07/10/2007 08:42:00

I visited the UK in 1990 and part of that holiday was to visit as many battle sites that I could,I was lucky to have a wonderful reference,this was \"Battles in Britain\" by William Seymour. It was a cold morning when i walked across that corn field to that huge stone cross, I still get goose bumps even know, I found it a very lonely and haunting place, I shall return to Flodden Field again one day



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Re: Site - Posted by EMCL
20/01/2008 08:18:00

Thank you for a most informative site! I\\\'ve no less than 11 ancestors who fell at Flodden on the Scots side and I\\\'ve found your pages very helpful in understanding what happened that horrible day



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Roll of Honour - Posted by Janet Gillies
06/02/2008 10:50:00

Looking to see if there is a list anywhere of the names of the men that fought at the battle and died my grandfather several times removed is reported as dying at battle his name was JOHN Ramsey



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My Home - Posted by Iain
31/03/2008 00:36:00

what a really nice site...
I found it by chance...and seeing the place that I grew up and played as a child was a real joy...brings back a lot of happy memories...

As a child growing up in Branxton Village we knew the story of the battle but it wasnt until I was an adult did I understand the significance
of it.
I haven\'t been back to Branxton and Flodden Field in 23 years ,since my family moved away when I was 12.
Yet every time I see the place I feel like I belong there,
In my heart this is my Home.
thank you.



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hays - Posted by michael stewart marr
03/04/2008 14:40:00

i had a great great ...grandfather and his brother who both died on the scots side they were sir william hay and sir thomas hay has anybody any info on them ???



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Research - Posted by Guy Nasuti
04/06/2008 22:30:00

I was wondering if anyone out there could direct me to primary and secondary source material on this battle? I believe I had some ancestors of the Irvine clan that fought for Scotland at Flodden, some of whom I believe died. But I\'d like to write an article about the battle for a publication in the United States.

Thank you,

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Burial of dead - Posted by Tom Hale
16/07/2008 07:36:50

Has there ever been an archaeological survey/study of the site? Has the burial of the dead ever been found? I hope to be there in 2013.



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Memorial service - Posted by Ian Gordon
18/07/2008 18:15:04

Hello there, is there a memorial service on or around the 9th September to remember those who fell at the Battle of Flodden Field, if so can anyone attend? Regards Ian Gordon



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Coldstream and Civic Week - Posted by Joe Crayston
04/08/2008 20:28:01

Brilliant site - a lesson to all on how to lay out a site simply and clearly with well thought out original material. Looking forward to the podcast - great idea. See also the Coldstream site:
http://www.coldstream-scotland.co.uk/history_flodden.html

Someone below mentions Coldstream Civic Week (the first full week in August). Flodden Day with horses involved in the Common Riding is this Thursday, 7th August 2008. See pictures at: http://www.coldstream-scotland.co.uk/civicweek_photos.html



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Coldstream Civic Week - Posted by Clive Hallam-Baker
05/08/2008 08:47:05

Joe, Thank you for your message. Yes, you are quite correct this week is Coldstream Civic Week, and Thursday is "Flodden Day" when some 300+ horses ride out to the Battlefield at Branxton. There is always a big crowd, join them if you can



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500th Anniversary - Posted by Lyle Orr
28/08/2008 10:55:27

Hi, I've visited this site before, found it very interesting and informative. Flodden and the surrounding area is indeed a haunting and atmospheric place. I've stood there many times, and out of all the battles that have taken place between our two nations, it always stirs the soul. I'm wondering, as the 500th anniversary approaches, is there anything being planned? Also, has the possibility of a visitors centre ever been mooted? If you could answer these queries, I would be grateful, also, what time is the commemoration for this year? Many thanks, Lyle.



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Lyle reply - Posted by Flodden Website
28/08/2008 13:01:32

Thanks for your message Lyle. We are working towards a suitable commemoration for the 500th anniversary of the Battle in 2013, but as yet we are in the early planning stages. Any ideas or contributions would be greatfully received. We would very much like to have a full scale visitor centre similar to those at Bosworth or Culloden, but of course funding is the problem, but we are working on this!!!
Please keep an eye on this site for news and developments.
Thanks again
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Flodden Field - Posted by Anthony Dolson-Fazio, 09/09/2008 11:17:34

Thanks so much for this great website. My wife and I visited Flodden Field in 1992; I had studied European History as an undergraduate, and I have some maternal-side Scots ancestry. I was moved beyond words at the battle site. This website has rekindled some bittersweet but fond memories. Thanks again.



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Ancestors at Flodden Field - Posted by Holley
16/09/2008 07:58:21

Hello, thanks for the interesting website. I have been doing ancestry research and my link to Flodden Field starts with Lady Agnes Stewart. Her husband Adam Hepburn, 2nd Earl of Bothwell fought and was killed at Flodden Field. They had a son, Patrick Hepburn, 3rd Earl of Bothwell, who was killed at Dumfries. She also had a daughter, Janet Stewart with James IV Stewart, King of Scotland, who of course as everyone knows was also killed in action there. I hope to be able to visit sometime soon and would love to be there in 2013. Thanks for all the information.



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Sir William Irish - Posted by pamela sharp-popple nee irish
09/11/2008 15:29:10

My great grandfather umpteen times back was knighted by the Earl of Surrey at Flodden. He was slain later in the year at Kelso. would like to find more info. anyone any ideas? pamela.sharp@btinternet.com



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Flodden - Posted by Lawrie Douglas
21/12/2008 15:00:18

How many among those killed at Flodden were named Douglas?
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Douglas - Posted by Clive Hallam-Baker
22/12/2008 16:50:53

Lawrie,
I can find only two - Sir John and Sir William Douglas. There may well be others, but only the nobility and gentry seemed to have been worthy of having their names noted.
If anyone else has more information, please share it here

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Douglas - Posted by Martha Cass
04/01/2009 16:00:06

Hi Lawrie –


I’ve been doing some research on a member of the Douglas family (Lady Janet Douglas) and have come across the following.

Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Angus (also know as the Great Earl and Bell-the-cat) fielded a significant force at Flodden. He was not given a commanding role in the battle because he argued with King James IV on the eve of the battle over strategy. The King told him to leave if he was afraid and he did. I believe that his men still took the field under the command of Lord Home. He lost two of his sons at Flodden including his eldest son and heir George Douglas, Master Angus.

Apparently the King and the Great Earl had a troubled history, one of their exchange was written about in Sir Walter Scott’s Marmion.

The Great Earl died the next year and was succeeded by George’s son Archibald who became the 6th Earl of Angus. Interesting the new Earl also became the husband of King James’ widow Margaret Tudor. Archibald and Queen Margaret had a daughter together named Lady Margaret Douglas (who has an impressive tomb in Westminster Abbey). Lady Margaret had a son named Henry, Lord Darnley who was the second husband of Mary Queen of Scots (also great and the father of King James VI and I.



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flodden - Posted by sherry dean
11/02/2009 13:06:15

my maiden name is flodden and i want to know, where the name originally, came from ? why did they name it flodden? i understand their was a battle their , but why did the name the battle flodden?